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04 August 2008

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justin hunt

I like the point about web 2.0 adoption coming up against management who are not Generation X-ers. This can be frustrating. I was in a meeting with a large organisation last week, pitching an idea of web 2.0 tools.We had waited ages to get the meeting with this senior communications executive. He started off by telling us how he had banned his son from using Facebook. And also said how little time he had to read blogs etc so how could anyone else be expected to? I reckon if he spent more time reading blogs in his subject/market area, his job would become easier. But it is definitely a challenge trying to convince senior management of the importance of web 2.0. For some reason they don't seem to think it matters.

hackneed

Always enjoy your two cents. Keep the analysis. Your frequency isn't overwhelming and it acts as a good filter.

Pete

Hi Justin - and in my experience, this generation gap issue isn't with social technology; it's with technology in general and is on view daily at brands, agencies, and consultancies.

If I were more of an anthropologist I'd have more references for this, but I believe that the generation gap used to occur around benign topics like dress code and hair styles. Maybe that focus had practical implications for the industrial age, e.g. wear a tie to protect your clothes from getting soiled, then be careful your tie doesn't get caught in the paper shredder. Today, the gap revolves around an issue critical to getting work done in the information age - technology - and we've got to be up to speed.

It's tough to win a battle armed with swords when the competition is using rifles.

Mike Spataro

Very helpful Peter. It validates what we've been experiencing too. Legal, IT and HR are often involved in the data collection and intelligence and interested in how social technologies can impact operations.

Arne-Per

Absolutely keep the analysis going. You have great insights!

Craig Alberino

Great summary Peter.

I've been working in the business to enterprise web 2.0 space for the last year. Justin hit it on the head with Gen X to Boomer conversation. I've had some similar challenges with needing to educate and "sell in" the technology more than I would have to if I was dealing with another Xer or Yer.

I am also finding that Boomers are coming to Gen Xers in their organizations to bridge the gap with Gen Yers who are the true digital natives. Senior management recognizes that in order to attract and retain talent, they need to listen and learn.

There are some very big brands with large budgets that want to do this the right way. And surprisingly, senior management is starting to listen. (And it only took 2 years.)

Adam Daniel Mezei

Hi Peter,

I'll chime in with the European perspective here -- and coming from someone who can bridge both divides, given that my "internal C: drive" is Canadian...ergo, I can understand it from this (local Czech) way and that...it might have more credence coming from someone like me who uses the (primarily) US-based Web2.0 tools, but who also understands features of the local marketplace and business ethics.

My read of this post is that you're referring to likely one of several millions of similar businesses/organizations, all nibbling from the fruit of the same social media tree.

But what if social media usage in corporations had very distinct cultural dimensions/vectors?

I keep thinking in this case of Japan or other "parochial"-type business cultures...where employees marched in lockstep with dictates from on-high.

Has anyone considered what might happen at certain social networking sites (in the English language, of course) which might be deemed "mandatory usage" on the part of bosses in other countries outside of the US?

We might not encounter such resistance from other corporate departments (egs. HR, Finance, Legal). And all this due to how these corporations function at a specific cultural level...

And if all rockets at a given company are firing and all employees/stakeholders at the same firm are reading from the same hymn book, imagine how this might impact the rolling out of social networking in ways we haven't seen (until now) in the US context?

Just an idea...

--ADM

Pete

Craig - that's awesome to hear about your success. Two years is long in internet time, but very short on many corporate scales!

ADM - the McKinsey data contained two data cuts based on region. Asia-Pacific respondents had the highest level of satisfaction with web 2.0 tools. North America had the highest percentage of respondents reporting dissatisfaction. One hypothesis would be that social networking tools help free the organization from cultural rigidity and usage is similar in US workplaces with strict IT policies, where workers access the sites they want via smartphone or web proxy instead.

Pavan

Yes - Definitely find this useful. Please keep publishing more of the same :-)

Kim

I live this daily too, trying to drive web strategy at an insurance company.

I won't blast any names here, but we have some consultants around (afterall, corporate senior leaders aren't going to listen to GenX'rs unless McKinsey or BCG confirm what we're saying, right?)

Anyway... we were supposed to be receiving a pitch on innovation, given by a Big5 web 2.0 expert. Deck was standard fare - basic examples of blogs, wikis, etc. and the "web 2.0 guru from the silicon valley" doesn't even have a twitter, friendfeed, blog or any type of account besides Facebook. "No, only Facebook for me."

Yet he was confident in telling our leaders that web 2.0 is going to revolutionize our industry.

Come onnnnn.....

A lot more sizzle than steak, IMO.

Peter Kim

Hi Kim - good point. Let me push it even further. When people investigating the social media space started, they started using the tools for personal reasons, then professional.

Josh Hallett (aka Hyku) in particular has called for an evolution in credibility - we need people who have done the work, not just used tools personally. See this post in particular: http://hyku.com/blog/archives/001936.html

Naturally, for a Gen Y professional with no work experience, the personal is all they've got. Personal use does equal credibility for the "digital born" consumer (using a term from Josh Spear/Undercurrent). Gen X toes the line here.

So you probably already know this, but your consultant is not just one, but two steps behind. You're right in asking "where's the beef?"

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